Comments for MinistryMatters http://www.ministrymatters.ca Inspiration for Canadian Anglican leaders Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:13:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 Comment on Expecting “unprecedented recognition” for Indigenous Ministries by David Bowring http://www.ministrymatters.ca/settingsail/expecting-unprecedented-recognition-for-indigenous-ministries/comment-page-1/#comment-117 David Bowring Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:13:48 +0000 http://www.ministrymatters.ca/?p=978#comment-117 I find much reason to affirm the distinct identity of First Nations within the Anglican family. Sacred Circle, ACIP NAIB all play important roles in developing that identity and educating the rest of us. My question is just what is meant by "constitutionally recognise?" The ACC was organised as a federation of dioceses with that famous proviso "a bishop is sovreign in his see." Are we moving towards a different way of constituting General Synod. Are we redefining the relationship between the GC and the dioceses. Are we moving towards taking some power away from the Diocesan Bishops. I am not objecting to such moves. I can see some positive reasons for them all. I just want us to understand what we are doing. I find much reason to affirm the distinct identity of First Nations within the Anglican family. Sacred Circle, ACIP NAIB all play important roles in developing that identity and educating the rest of us. My question is just what is meant by "constitutionally recognise?" The ACC was organised as a federation of dioceses with that famous proviso "a bishop is sovreign in his see." Are we moving towards a different way of constituting General Synod. Are we redefining the relationship between the GC and the dioceses. Are we moving towards taking some power away from the Diocesan Bishops. I am not objecting to such moves. I can see some positive reasons for them all. I just want us to understand what we are doing.

]]> Comment on Expecting “unprecedented recognition” for Indigenous Ministries by ecosophian http://www.ministrymatters.ca/settingsail/expecting-unprecedented-recognition-for-indigenous-ministries/comment-page-1/#comment-116 ecosophian Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:30:11 +0000 http://www.ministrymatters.ca/?p=978#comment-116 What??? You must be joking! These developments of Indigenous Ministry within the Anglican Church of Canada are one of the clearest signs of the Spirit in our nation ... indeed in Turtle Island. As the mainline churches are further and further disestablished, and rightly so, hopefully we will learn the lesson of the cost of being married to the colonial powers-that-be. Leadership and renewal are going to come from the very people who have been marginalized for so many decades by the dominant culture. We should be celebrating this, rather than bemoaning it as a "luxury which should never have been created". Thanks be to the Creator, for raising up the First Peoples of this land! What??? You must be joking! These developments of Indigenous Ministry within the Anglican Church of Canada are one of the clearest signs of the Spirit in our nation … indeed in Turtle Island. As the mainline churches are further and further disestablished, and rightly so, hopefully we will learn the lesson of the cost of being married to the colonial powers-that-be. Leadership and renewal are going to come from the very people who have been marginalized for so many decades by the dominant culture. We should be celebrating this, rather than bemoaning it as a "luxury which should never have been created". Thanks be to the Creator, for raising up the First Peoples of this land!

]]> Comment on Join us in preparing for General Synod 2010 by David http://www.ministrymatters.ca/settingsail/join-us-in-preparing-for-general-synod-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-115 David Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:15:58 +0000 http://www.ministrymatters.ca/?p=957#comment-115 It is disheartening to see Anglican Churches closing everywhere and to see Anglicans divided against each other on matters of social justice and equality. However, I can't help but think a far greater problem lies at the heart of Anglican decline. That problem is the traditional concept of God that is just not credible to most people today. That concept is one in which God is super human in nature, with form, with likes, dislikes and emotions and with the power and inclination to intervene in the affairs of humankind. No matter how many superficial changes are made to the service, social marketing of the church or nuanced social policies, the church will continue to decline and eventually disappear, unless the idea of what God is, is more thoroughly and publically discussed and modernized to align with our understanding of reality. I believe there are models in the world that could inform such discussion, but Christians have to get over their squimishness about investigating and learning from religions they have long considered inferior. This is the kind of thing I would like to see discussed at the General Synod. It is disheartening to see Anglican Churches closing everywhere and to see Anglicans divided against each other on matters of social justice and equality. However, I can't help but think a far greater problem lies at the heart of Anglican decline. That problem is the traditional concept of God that is just not credible to most people today. That concept is one in which God is super human in nature, with form, with likes, dislikes and emotions and with the power and inclination to intervene in the affairs of humankind. No matter how many superficial changes are made to the service, social marketing of the church or nuanced social policies, the church will continue to decline and eventually disappear, unless the idea of what God is, is more thoroughly and publically discussed and modernized to align with our understanding of reality. I believe there are models in the world that could inform such discussion, but Christians have to get over their squimishness about investigating and learning from religions they have long considered inferior. This is the kind of thing I would like to see discussed at the General Synod.

]]> Comment on Join us in preparing for General Synod 2010 by Rod http://www.ministrymatters.ca/settingsail/join-us-in-preparing-for-general-synod-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-114 Rod Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:44:27 +0000 http://www.ministrymatters.ca/?p=957#comment-114 Hi, I've been to two General Synods. They were wonderful and broadening events. However, there was also a lot of politics in the process. I've read the reports in the Current Anglican Journal about the forthcoming GS. I read between the lines a lot of anxiety and wrestling for control of the agenda. I'm wondering if some of that struggle has now begun to evidence itself with regard to this blog site. Hi, I've been to two General Synods. They were wonderful and broadening events. However, there was also a lot of politics in the process. I've read the reports in the Current Anglican Journal about the forthcoming GS. I read between the lines a lot of anxiety and wrestling for control of the agenda. I'm wondering if some of that struggle has now begun to evidence itself with regard to this blog site.

]]> Comment on Expecting “unprecedented recognition” for Indigenous Ministries by bessborough http://www.ministrymatters.ca/settingsail/expecting-unprecedented-recognition-for-indigenous-ministries/comment-page-1/#comment-113 bessborough Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:46:20 +0000 http://www.ministrymatters.ca/?p=978#comment-113 When will the Anglican Communion see that this is a continuation of a fragmenting of the Church. There was never a need for an "Indigenous Bishop" and it was prompted I fear by the former leader out of a general guilt about the Indian schools and the churches record. The role of this Bishop is very poorly defined/. In a time of austerity, can the Church really afford such a luxury which should never have been created? When will the Anglican Communion see that this is a continuation of a fragmenting of the Church. There was never a need for an "Indigenous Bishop" and it was prompted I fear by the former leader out of a general guilt about the Indian schools and the churches record. The role of this Bishop is very poorly defined/.
In a time of austerity, can the Church really afford such a luxury which should never have been created?

]]> Comment on Join us in preparing for General Synod 2010 by catherine http://www.ministrymatters.ca/settingsail/join-us-in-preparing-for-general-synod-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-111 catherine Thu, 11 Mar 2010 04:04:49 +0000 http://www.ministrymatters.ca/?p=957#comment-111 Hi, I'm coming from Diocese of BC. I. too am looking forward to the time in Halifax. It does seem like a sort of 'geeky' thing, but if you think about it; you will be involved in setting policy for the future of the ACC. You will also meet people from all over Canada; all people who love the ACC. I went to GS '07 and I had a great time and will remember it always. So, just make sure you get to bed when you can... the hours are long, the resolutions are either boring or intense and the emotional connections are brutal. So, is this Melanie from NWM? Hi, I'm coming from Diocese of BC. I. too am looking forward to the time in Halifax. It does seem like a sort of 'geeky' thing, but if you think about it; you will be involved in setting policy for the future of the ACC. You will also meet people from all over Canada; all people who love the ACC. I went to GS '07 and I had a great time and will remember it always. So, just make sure you get to bed when you can… the hours are long, the resolutions are either boring or intense and the emotional connections are brutal. So, is this Melanie from NWM?

]]> Comment on Join us in preparing for General Synod 2010 by asymons http://www.ministrymatters.ca/settingsail/join-us-in-preparing-for-general-synod-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-109 asymons Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:33:22 +0000 http://www.ministrymatters.ca/?p=957#comment-109 Thanks for your comments, everyone! The web team is delighted that many people are posting in this forum. For now, however, we are suspending the discussion on sexuality. There will be a later post in this forum that will specifically address this topic. Thanks again for your participation. Thanks for your comments, everyone! The web team is delighted that many people are posting in this forum.

For now, however, we are suspending the discussion on sexuality. There will be a later post in this forum that will specifically address this topic.

Thanks again for your participation.

]]> Comment on Join us in preparing for General Synod 2010 by brian http://www.ministrymatters.ca/settingsail/join-us-in-preparing-for-general-synod-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-107 brian Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:19:30 +0000 http://www.ministrymatters.ca/?p=957#comment-107 On Page 11 o f the March 2010 Anglican Journal, Archbishop Hiltz was interviewed. He pointed out four main areas of content for General Synod. 1 - Receiving a report about Vision 2010 2 Having conversations about sexuality 3 - Recommendations about the role of the Primate 4 - Voting on the size of synod. What's the scoop on three? What kind of changes might be done to the office or role of the Primate? On Page 11 o f the March 2010 Anglican Journal, Archbishop Hiltz was interviewed. He pointed out four main areas of content for General Synod.
1 – Receiving a report about Vision 2010
2 Having conversations about sexuality
3 – Recommendations about the role of the Primate
4 – Voting on the size of synod.

What's the scoop on three? What kind of changes might be done to the office or role of the Primate?

]]> Comment on Join us in preparing for General Synod 2010 by GS Web Team http://www.ministrymatters.ca/settingsail/join-us-in-preparing-for-general-synod-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-105 GS Web Team Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:51:06 +0000 http://www.ministrymatters.ca/?p=957#comment-105 If there are replies to comments, the link will be next to the "Reply" button, listing the number of replies. For example, the item above, by Israel Newell, has 1 reply. When you write a new comment, you can subscribe to comments by selecting it from the drop-down below the comment box. It defaults to None, but you can choose either "Replies" or "All new comments". I hope this is of help. If there are replies to comments, the link will be next to the "Reply" button, listing the number of replies. For example, the item above, by Israel Newell, has 1 reply. When you write a new comment, you can subscribe to comments by selecting it from the drop-down below the comment box. It defaults to None, but you can choose either "Replies" or "All new comments". I hope this is of help.

]]> Comment on Join us in preparing for General Synod 2010 by catherine http://www.ministrymatters.ca/settingsail/join-us-in-preparing-for-general-synod-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-104 catherine Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:43:16 +0000 http://www.ministrymatters.ca/?p=957#comment-104 I'm pretty tech savvy (although have places I, too get lost. ) But, I don't see anywhere to find further threads. I see 13 of 33. reply to comments is ok. AND, can we get an e-mail notification of new comments? I'm pretty tech savvy (although have places I, too get lost. ) But, I don't see anywhere to find further threads. I see 13 of 33. reply to comments is ok. AND, can we get an e-mail notification of new comments?

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